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With Contour2 does anyone notice and dislike the TV display when viewing classic shows---for example, the Turner Movie Channel or Twilight Zone? In days long ago, most non-HD shows played poorly on an HDTV. Then it got a whole lot better. For me with my previous Cox cable boxes most older movies or classic shows filled the screen because you often had the choice of accessing some by their HD or non-HD channel - or even if they didn't fill the screen, you could press a button on the remote and make it \"zoom\" or \"stretch\" or \"normal.\" Zoom did not give you a \"bigger image vertically\" or distort the view. It just filled the screen in landscape mode and with no distortion. I have many of those channels now where the display is like a huge square from top to bottom, and blackout columns on either side--in other words you can't make it go landscape. As such, you lose quite a bit of the screen shot horizontally and often the picture is distorted or blurry. Even when the picture is clear, it is chopped off. I've tried changing resolutions on my TV and Contour remotes, but no luck. Just asking if you had this problem and figured out a cure. I'm such a lover of old shows, this is close to a show-stopper for me and the opposite of an \"upgrade.\" Seeing a bigger square version of Mickey Rooney and Judy Garland on the screen with one of his arms chopped off by the big square \"view\" is annoying!!!
It sounds like you're zooming an SD movie. Are you on the correct channel for the HD version of TCM?
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I am watching TCM/HD and in my location it is Channel 1040. There is a Ray Milland movie on and the baby in the crib has part of the crib's right side cropped out because of the very square display view. I understand there are many SD channels like the old TV game shows. With those, they were not as great as HD, but I used to be able to enlarge them too with my Scientific Atlanta remote, and no matter what, they were not as blurry as they are now that I've entered Contour land. Thanks again for your suggestion.
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While the picture is slightly more landscaped, there are still black sidebars on both sides. This is the difference between the filming capabilities available in 1951 (Ray Milland's Close to My Heart) versus the improvements implemented by the late 50s when Lawman began filming. Trying to zoom the picture on either channel would distort the quality and cut off part of the picture. -Becky, Cox Support Forums Moderator","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2019-05-06T15:16:20.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-05-06T15:16:20.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":22},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"community:bekvh56327board:tv/message:59749/message:59755","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"MessageEdge","cursor":"MjUuMnwyLjF8b3wxfDE0OjAsMzk6MXwx","node":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:59758"}}]},"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"540","rawBody":"The episode of Lawman currently airing on Starz/Encore Westerns displays in a similar fashion to the Ray Milland movie. While the picture is slightly more landscaped, there are still black sidebars on both sides. This is the difference between the filming capabilities available in 1951 (Ray Milland's Close to My Heart) versus the improvements implemented by the late 50s when Lawman began filming. 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I am so sorry for this long response. I understand your reply. Not all shows are equal. But I don't understand why changing to a new DVR/cable box distorts my TV viewing. I've been with Cox for decades, so I've had cable boxes changed out or upgraded when one wore out, or if I moved to a new home and the replacement was an upgrade. But they've lasted a long time. What I lack in technical expertise I make up for in familiarity of my televisions and how they work with equipment. I know what I see on the TV screen every day. I am also good at learning all aspects of cable box and television settings. I try to do self-help before asking for help--and I'm the first person to admit to an \"operator error.\" However, I have watched Turner Classics and a myriad of older shows that span the years, and they were never so cropped, or framed in thick in black bands, or this distorted. Before Contour, I could even put those kind of shows on zoom (not stretch) from the remote and it gave me a full balanced picture--whether it was TMC, or The Twilight Zone, or Alfred Hitchcock, or old game shows. I'm not saying they were HD quality, but really, really clear. But when my Scientific Atlantas were \"upgraded\" to Contour2, in one fell swoop I got distorted picture quality. In other words, the picture display looked one way the day before Contour, and a distorted way after Contour. Also, the majority of my \"square screen\" shows are blurry--like on old game shows. They are crazy-blurry--not typical. Having said that, I think the tech did his installation job okay. I might add one thing to my bad cowboy song: on my \"better\" HD channels, where the picture has good color and is landscaped, the picture displays as \"zoomed in,\" so I can be watching a true HD new show and the view is somewhat larger than it was before Contour. I had taped the Billboard Music Awards, and I saw the zoomed-in effect when I played it back. So I get it both ways. If there is a close-up of two people, the top of their hair is cropped off. Their heads look zoomed in. Whether it is the older shows or the new ones, they are defaulting to a distorted view that I never had before. I have tried every way possible to adjust the Contour settings and the LG settings on my TV, to no avail. This may be the new-normal, but something has been changed or skewed. I have an appointment tomorrow with a Cox tech and I requested an in-house tech. I want the tech to see what I'm talking about and determine if it's fixable or if I'm stuck with the views. If that's the reality, okay. Honestly, I love Cox, but I'm frustrated and sad about the changes, so I will exhaust every form of troubleshooting before I would leave Cox. Thanks for taking the time to respond.
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