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Ongoing Latency Issue

For the past several months I have been having latency and packet loss issues on and off again, that usually appear centered in the local Cox network or near the bridge to a backbone provider. This evening got pretty bad, with 200ms+ going from my modem out the door. For normal net usage this is annoying but livable. However, for online gaming, this is extremely frustrating. While I am no expert, from everything I am seeing there is both unpredictable latency throughout the Southern California Cox network, as well some packet loss.

For background I reside in a large apartment complex, which I am sure impacts it to some degree, but I find it extremely unlikely that 12:00am on a Friday evening should be worse than most other Fridays, weekends, or week nights during peak hours.

While I have run numerous tracerts and pathpings, I am including the 2 I just ran below. While most are a mess with wildly varying latency, Hops 2-4, 7, and 8 are particularly notable. Hops 13-16 can safely be ignored as they are being blocked by the network.



Tracing route to 12.129.209.68 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2   135 ms   138 ms   172 ms  10.82.8.1
  3   285 ms   261 ms   256 ms  ip68-4-11-194.oc.oc.cox.net [68.4.11.194]
  4     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  5   221 ms   156 ms   146 ms  ip68-4-11-230.oc.oc.cox.net [68.4.11.230]
  6   179 ms   208 ms   145 ms  langbprj01-ae1.rd.la.cox.net [68.1.1.13]
  7   229 ms   221 ms   235 ms  xe-5-0-0.edge2.LosAngeles9.Level3.net [4.53.230.81]
  8   278 ms   257 ms   283 ms  vlan90.csw4.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.144.254]
  9   120 ms   156 ms   160 ms  ae-91-91.ebr1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.137.13]
 10   205 ms   206 ms   190 ms  ae-6-6.ebr1.Tustin1.Level3.net [4.69.153.222]
 11   251 ms   185 ms   179 ms  ae-106-3506.bar2.Tustin1.Level3.net [4.69.158.102]
 12   241 ms   199 ms   220 ms  192.205.37.145
 13   196 ms   256 ms   252 ms  cr1.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.128.102]
 14   252 ms   280 ms   300 ms  gar20.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.128.181]
 15   144 ms   140 ms   194 ms  12-122-254-234.attens.net [12.122.254.234]
 16   219 ms   231 ms   228 ms  mdf001c7613r0002.lax1.attens.net [206.16.68.54]
 17   287 ms   228 ms   251 ms  12.129.209.68

Trace complete.


Tracing route to 12.129.209.68 over a maximum of 30 hops

  0  PC.oc.cox.net [192.168.1.103]
  1  192.168.1.1
  2  10.82.8.1
  3  ip68-4-11-194.oc.oc.cox.net [68.4.11.194]
  4  ip68-4-11-231.oc.oc.cox.net [68.4.11.231]
  5  ip68-4-11-94.oc.oc.cox.net [68.4.11.94]
  6  langbprj01-ae1.rd.la.cox.net [68.1.1.13]
  7  xe-5-0-0.edge2.LosAngeles9.Level3.net [4.53.230.81]
  8  vlan90.csw4.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.144.254]
  9  ae-91-91.ebr1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.137.13]
 10  ae-6-6.ebr1.Tustin1.Level3.net [4.69.153.222]
 11  ae-106-3506.bar2.Tustin1.Level3.net [4.69.158.102]
 12  192.205.37.145
 13  cr1.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.128.102]
 14  gar20.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.128.181]
 15  12-122-254-234.attens.net [12.122.254.234]
 16  mdf001c7613r0002.lax1.attens.net [206.16.68.54]
 17  12.129.209.68

Computing statistics for 425 seconds...
            Source to Here   This Node/Link
Hop  RTT    Lost/Sent = Pct  Lost/Sent = Pct  Address
  0                                           PC.oc.cox.net [192.168.1.103]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  1    0ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  192.168.1.1
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  2  215ms     1/ 100 =  1%     1/ 100 =  1%  10.82.8.1
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  3  213ms     1/ 100 =  1%     1/ 100 =  1%  ip68-4-11-194.oc.oc.cox.net [68.4.11.194]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  4  217ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  ip68-4-11-231.oc.oc.cox.net [68.4.11.231]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  5  214ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  ip68-4-11-94.oc.oc.cox.net [68.4.11.94]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  6  212ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  langbprj01-ae1.rd.la.cox.net [68.1.1.13]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  7  207ms     1/ 100 =  1%     1/ 100 =  1%  xe-5-0-0.edge2.LosAngeles9.Level3.net [4.53.230.81]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  8  206ms     1/ 100 =  1%     1/ 100 =  1%  vlan90.csw4.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.144.254]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  9  212ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  ae-91-91.ebr1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.137.13]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 10  213ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  ae-6-6.ebr1.Tustin1.Level3.net [4.69.153.222]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 11  216ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  ae-106-3506.bar2.Tustin1.Level3.net [4.69.158.102]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 12  214ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  192.205.37.145
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 13  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  cr1.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.128.102]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 14  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  gar20.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.128.181]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 15  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  12-122-254-234.attens.net [12.122.254.234]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 16  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  mdf001c7613r0002.lax1.attens.net [206.16.68.54]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 17  221ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  12.129.209.68

Trace complete.

Any help or information would be greatly appreciated.

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Between us and the modem I'm seeing about 10ms. average ping times so combining that with the data you're getting I'm thinking this is going to be something internal.  Can you try testing without the router and see what numbers you get.

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Sure thing.

Router bypassed and modem/computer power cycled full 60 seconds disconnected from power, test at ~3:30pm PST.

Tracing route to 12.129.209.68 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1   297 ms   300 ms   299 ms  10.82.8.1
  2   122 ms   123 ms   143 ms  ip68-4-11-194.oc.oc.cox.net [68.4.11.194]
  3     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  4   296 ms   296 ms   302 ms  ip68-4-11-230.oc.oc.cox.net [68.4.11.230]
  5   325 ms   315 ms   313 ms  mtc1bbrj01-ge710.rd.om.cox.net [68.1.0.136]
  6   103 ms    97 ms    92 ms  xe-5-0-1.edge2.LosAngeles9.Level3.net [4.53.230.85]
  7   110 ms   121 ms   108 ms  vlan70.csw2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.144.126]
  8   133 ms   136 ms   139 ms  ae-71-71.ebr1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.137.5]
  9   169 ms   155 ms   157 ms  ae-6-6.ebr1.Tustin1.Level3.net [4.69.153.222]
 10   173 ms   180 ms   180 ms  ae-105-3505.bar2.Tustin1.Level3.net [4.69.158.98]
 11   213 ms   219 ms   216 ms  192.205.37.145
 12   289 ms   292 ms   292 ms  cr1.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.128.102]
 13   297 ms   307 ms   301 ms  gar20.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.128.181]
 14   328 ms   322 ms   330 ms  12-122-254-234.attens.net [12.122.254.234]
 15   327 ms   336 ms   343 ms  mdf001c7613r0003-gig-12-1.lax1.attens.net [12.129.193.254]
 16   108 ms   105 ms   106 ms  12.129.209.68

Trace complete.

Tracing route to 12.129.209.68 over a maximum of 30 hops

  0  PC.oc.cox.net [174.67.200.23]
  1  10.82.8.1
  2  ip68-4-11-194.oc.oc.cox.net [68.4.11.194]
  3     *        *     ip68-4-11-231.oc.oc.cox.net [68.4.11.231]
  4  ip68-4-11-230.oc.oc.cox.net [68.4.11.230]
  5  mtc1bbrj01-ge710.rd.om.cox.net [68.1.0.136]
  6  xe-5-0-1.edge2.LosAngeles9.Level3.net [4.53.230.85]
  7  vlan70.csw2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.144.126]
  8  ae-71-71.ebr1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.137.5]
  9  ae-6-6.ebr1.Tustin1.Level3.net [4.69.153.222]
 10  ae-105-3505.bar2.Tustin1.Level3.net [4.69.158.98]
 11  192.205.37.145
 12  cr1.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.128.102]
 13  gar20.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.128.181]
 14  12-122-254-234.attens.net [12.122.254.234]
 15  mdf001c7613r0003-gig-12-1.lax1.attens.net [12.129.193.254]
 16  12.129.209.68

Computing statistics for 400 seconds...
            Source to Here   This Node/Link
Hop  RTT    Lost/Sent = Pct  Lost/Sent = Pct  Address
  0                                           PC.oc.cox.net [174.67.200.23]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  1  133ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  10.82.8.1
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  2  137ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  ip68-4-11-194.oc.oc.cox.net [68.4.11.194]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  3  139ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  ip68-4-11-231.oc.oc.cox.net [68.4.11.231]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  4  136ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  ip68-4-11-230.oc.oc.cox.net [68.4.11.230]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  5  144ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  mtc1bbrj01-ge710.rd.om.cox.net [68.1.0.136]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  6  149ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  xe-5-0-1.edge2.LosAngeles9.Level3.net [4.53.230.85]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  7  149ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  vlan70.csw2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.144.126]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  8  149ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  ae-71-71.ebr1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.137.5]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  9  155ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  ae-6-6.ebr1.Tustin1.Level3.net [4.69.153.222]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 10  153ms     1/ 100 =  1%     1/ 100 =  1%  ae-105-3505.bar2.Tustin1.Level3.net [4.69.158.98]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 11  158ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  192.205.37.145
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 12  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  cr1.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.128.102]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 13  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  gar20.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.128.181]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 14  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  12-122-254-234.attens.net [12.122.254.234]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 15  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  mdf001c7613r0003-gig-12-1.lax1.attens.net [12.129.193.254]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 16  148ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  12.129.209.68

Trace complete.

On a final note, a few of my friends in the area who are also Cox subscribers are reporting 200+ ping as well. While I get that you are going down the troubleshooting list, this is looking much more like a external network issue. Do you guys have any damaged hubs, or are doing maintenance of some kind? Especially near the Level 3 bridge? I would ask to be routed around this mess but it starts literally out my front door. =(

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AngelKreuz,

This will require some further research so we'll need to collect your account information so a ticket can be created.  Can you please email us at cox.help@cox.com and include the name and address on the account in your message.