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Cox won’t update modem firmware

After upgrading to 2 gig plan I have been experiencing intermittent  connectivity issues. After trouble shooting, including having a cox technician out to check lines, I found the firmware version of my modem was known to be buggy. This is a NETGEAR cm3000 modem. NETGEAR directed me to reach out to cox and have them push the latest firmware update. I had a chat conversation where the tech refused to push a firmware update because I am using a retail modem and not a cox supplied modem. I explained to the tech this is in correct and it is the isp responsibility regardless of who supplied the modem. I was still refused service. This is the poorest customer service. With the amount of money I pay for internet I would expect more. Doing some research in this forum and internet, this does not seem to be unusual 🤨

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Not saying you're right or wrong, but do you have a reference for the requirement that an ISP must provide firmware updates for customer owned modems?  I'm sure others with the same issue would be interested in seeing that.  I know NETGEAR typically provides firmware updates through the ISP.  But if the ISP refuses to do it for customer owned modems, you're kind of stuck.  What does NETGEAR say about that?  Just curious, if Cox won't provide firmware updates for customer owned modems, why can't NETGEAR do it? 

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Updates for modem firmware are pushed out by Cox's Docsis Engineering, AFTER  it's been certified. Just because Netgear has a new firmware, doesn't mean it's been approved and certified to function on the Cox Network, and not interfere with OTHER devices. 

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@Darkatt​  Agreed, but DannyS already verified that.  OP's issue is he has a user-owned modem with faulty firmware.  Cox won't do a rollback to the stable version they currently certify because their policy is not to support user-owned modems.  Cox controls the network so Netgear can't push out an update.  OP is forced to wait for Cox to test, certify and push out Netgear's latest firmware release, whenever that will be.  (It was probably created to fix the fault with OP's version).  But since Cox's current certified version is prior to OP's faulty one, that probably won't happen anytime soon.  Hopefully, Cox will include user-owned modems if they eventually push out a new version of the manufacturer's firmware.


@robj067   You probably should just buy a different, approved modem or lease one from Cox.  The only way I see for you to get your modem's firmware updated would be if Cox eventually gets around to it.  For it to be successful, you'd have to be connected while they're doing the maintenance.  But you won't know when it's going to be done and if your modem isn't stable enough to use it, you have a logistical issue.

I guess the moral of this story is "Buy your own modem at your own risk."  Cox won't help if there's an issue.  If you do buy your own modem, make sure it’s a brand on Cox’s approved modem list and it’s running a firmware version that Cox has already certified.  Cox still won’t troubleshoot or update the firmware because it will be a customer‑owned device.  But using a certified modem should reduce the chances of problems occurring.

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Actually, Cox's Docsys Engineering will auto update ANY modem, Cox or 3rd party to the latest Cox Approved firmware automatically. I worked with them for many years when I was employed by Cox, and even beta tested firmwares with them. Got a free modem out of it, after they bricked my Netgear 6300 MANY years ago, LOL.  But they WILL support 3rd party modems, and they do auto update with the latest approved firmware. 

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@Darkatt​ Good.  If that's still Cox's policy, OP could at least receive an update the next time Cox pushes out firmware for his type of modem, when and if that ever happens.  Is the auto update you mentioned only done after Cox has certified a firmware version, to update all applicable modems connected when the update is performed?  Is there any other, periodic or unscheduled process to update modems that don't have certified firmware?  (His faulty modem would have to be connected when Cox auto updates and he has no way to know when it's going to be done).  It appears Cox only does the one-time update after each certification.  If that's the case, OP still has to wait for Cox to test, certify and push out the next auto update.  Another factor to consider is that OP has a later firmware version than what Cox has certified.  There's no evidence Cox does any other type of auto update, but even if they do, they wouldn’t push a firmware version older than what he has.  For OP's issue to be resolved, he must continue using his modem with the faulty firmware until Cox pushes out a later firmware version.

@robj067 You said issues started after you upgraded to a 2 Gbps plan.  Even if you got those speeds, which is doubtful, you probably wouldn't notice much difference between that and 1 Gbps.  If your modem worked without issue on your previous plan, you could try dropping back to see if it fixes your current issues.  You'll probably want to downgrade anyway to save money if your modem issues prevent you from getting near 2 Gbps speed.  If you ever do get a firmware update from Cox, you could try the 2 Gbps plan again then.

Faulty firmware is just a risk that comes with buying your own modem.  You probably won't be able to verify it's been certified by Cox.  If modem manufacturers waited for all ISPs to certify their firmware, new modems would have to ship with older versions.  A person could always check the Internet for reported issues with the shipped firmware version before buying, but most of the time there won't be an issue.

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