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Motorola SB6141 disconnection issue

Hi,

About once every 1 or 2 days, my modem loses the connection. A cold restart would fix the issue, which, however, is annoying. I wonder whether it is an outdated firmware causing this hassle. Here is what I have:

Model Name: SB6141
Vendor Name: Motorola
Firmware Name: SB_KOMODO-1.0.6.12-SCM00-NOSH
Boot Version: PSPU-Boot(25CLK) 1.0.12.18m3
Hardware Version: 7.0
Serial Number: 374781418201891410020022
Firmware Build Time: Mar 12 2013 17:48:19

I can post more info if necessary.Thx!

--jun

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Is it set to a fixed channel, or automatic?  Disconnects seem to be reduced when I switched to a fixed channel 1, 9, 11 seemed best )

if you have had the modem for a few years and it gets a lot of use, it may need to be replaced.  My experience is they do a slow dance of death.   More frequent disconnects and need for reboots are a sign they are on the way out.

we are a very connected house and kill modem and routers in 4-5 years easily.  Current motorola modem and apple router are on year 4 and still going strong.

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I using the exact same modem with the same firmware(SB_KOMODO-1.0.6.12-SCM00-NOSH) and no reported problems. Rock solid. 

Could you post the modem's signal levels?

@Lizdance40 I think he is talking about modem connectivity, not wireless issues. Though changing the channel is a good idea, no one channel is "better" then another, its just which channel has less congestion in your area. 

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Thx for the reply. Here is a copy of the signal page. When it works, it's great -- it's just the spontaneous disconnection that is annoying.

DownstreamBonding Channel Value
Channel ID 1  2  3  4  9  10  11  12 
Frequency 813000000 Hz  819000000 Hz  825000000 Hz  831000000 Hz  861000000 Hz  867000000 Hz  873000000 Hz  879000000 Hz 
Signal to Noise Ratio 37 dB  37 dB  37 dB  37 dB  37 dB  38 dB  38 dB  38 dB 
Downstream Modulation QAM256  QAM256  QAM256  QAM256  QAM256  QAM256  QAM256  QAM256 
Power Level
The Downstream Power Level reading is a snapshot taken at the time this page was requested. Please Reload/Refresh this Page for a new reading
1 dBmV   1 dBmV   1 dBmV   1 dBmV   1 dBmV   1 dBmV   1 dBmV   2 dBmV  

UpstreamBonding Channel Value
Channel ID 1  2  3 
Frequency 23810000 Hz  30210000 Hz  35580000 Hz 
Ranging Service ID 3634  3634  3634 
Symbol Rate 5.120 Msym/sec  5.120 Msym/sec  2.560 Msym/sec 
Power Level 42 dBmV  44 dBmV  45 dBmV 
Upstream Modulation [3] 16QAM
[3] 64QAM
 
[3] 16QAM
[3] 64QAM
 
[3] QPSK
[2] 16QAM
[3] 64QAM
 
Ranging Status Success  Success  Success 

Signal Stats (Codewords)Bonding Channel Value
Channel ID 1  2  3  4  9  10  11  12 
Total Unerrored Codewords 1123044127  1122114210  1122122812  1122131154  1122105453  1122104251  1122107932  1122108919 
Total Correctable Codewords 10  122  234  77  238  2614  18  20 
Total Uncorrectable Codewords 1430  1392  1312  1311  1553  1466  1464  1555 

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Thx for the reply. As Health Edge pointed out below, the issue is between the cable modem and cox. My wireless router works fine. I bought this router about 3 months ago so it is pretty new.

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The signal levels look sound. Do you lose the lights on the modem as it disconnects? Or on the router?

Also, make sure the modem is connected directly to the electrical wall socket. Surge protectors can sometimes cause interruption of the current running through them.You wouldn't notice it if a light was pluged in, but its enough to interrupt the connection between the modem and Cox.

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Hello lujun823, 

I was able to locate the modem information, I see there is another version of firmware available.  I can push that to the modem to see if that helps.  I did also want to ask if you had any splitters or anything connected?  The signal levels to the modem look fine.

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DerrickW said:
I see there is another version of firmware available.

Is that a new version for the area, or national? Any release notes? I have the same modem with same firmware.

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Health Edge,

The version I see available is Moto_SB612x_6141-1.0.6.14-SCM01_C_140318.p7.  I can see if it is available to you, I would just need your MAC address.  You can email it to cox.help@cox.com.

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Hi Derrick,

Let's try the new version. Anything else you need from me to get the push? Thx.

--jun

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Hi Health Edge,

I can't remember the lights when it is disconnected. I will report back when it hits me again. Thx!

--jun

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Just spent 2 hours on the phone with a Tier 2 agent trying to get my SB6141's firmware updated. Motorola's site directs users to their ISP's for the firmware update yet, the few people I have spoken with weren't able to assist me. Seems like you have the magic wand. How can I get my SB6141's firmware updated also?

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lujun823,

I would just need to have you verify the account information so I can make the changes.  Can you please email us at cox.help@cox.com, verify the name, address, and the last four of the SSN listed on the account.  Once I push the new firmware you will be disconnected briefly. 

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@PatrickAZ2014

I did take a look at your modem and it seems the firmware is already up to date.  Is there any particular issue you're trying to resolve?

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Hi Derrick,

Thx for pushing the new firmware -- I can confirm that the modem reports the new firmware version. However, it happened again tonight, which was fixed by a cold restart.

Some symptoms I observed while it was in trouble:

The light of internet connection is off.

Here is the status page, which looks normal to me:

TaskStatus
DOCSIS Downstream Channel Acquisition Done
DOCSIS Ranging Done
Establish IP Connectivity using DHCP Done
Establish Time Of Day Done
Transfer Operational Parameters through TFTP Done
Register Connection Done
Cable Modem Status Operational
Initialize Baseline Privacy Done

Cable Modem OperationValue
Current Time and Date Jan 01 2015 17:12:30
System Up Time 2 days 7h:41m:17s

Here is the Signal page, which looks good.

DownstreamBonding Channel Value
Channel ID 1  2  3  4  9  10  11  12 
Frequency 813000000 Hz  819000000 Hz  825000000 Hz  831000000 Hz  861000000 Hz  867000000 Hz  873000000 Hz  879000000 Hz 
Signal to Noise Ratio 37 dB  37 dB  38 dB  37 dB  37 dB  38 dB  38 dB  38 dB 
Downstream Modulation QAM256  QAM256  QAM256  QAM256  QAM256  QAM256  QAM256  QAM256 
Power Level
The Downstream Power Level reading is a snapshot taken at the time this page was requested. Please Reload/Refresh this Page for a new reading
1 dBmV   1 dBmV   1 dBmV   1 dBmV   1 dBmV   1 dBmV   1 dBmV   1 dBmV  

UpstreamBonding Channel Value
Channel ID 1  2  3 
Frequency 23810000 Hz  30210000 Hz  35580000 Hz 
Ranging Service ID 3634  3634  3634 
Symbol Rate 5.120 Msym/sec  5.120 Msym/sec  2.560 Msym/sec 
Power Level 42 dBmV  43 dBmV  44 dBmV 
Upstream Modulation [3] 16QAM
[3] 64QAM
 
[3] 16QAM
[3] 64QAM
 
[3] QPSK
[2] 16QAM
[3] 64QAM
 
Ranging Status Success  Success  Success 

Signal Stats (Codewords)Bonding Channel Value
Channel ID 1  2  3  4  9  10  11  12 
Total Unerrored Codewords 9108408469  4812422012  4812429238  4812438948  4812412314  9107363866  9107377701  9107384238 
Total Correctable Codewords 119  1211  2084  736  1301  18240  4520  38 
Total Uncorrectable Codewords 1349  1407  1483  1308  1518  1515  2499  1529 

Here is the Log page:

Dec 30 2014 09:31:48 6-Notice I401.0 TLV-11 - unrecognized OID;CM-MAC=78:96:84:fa:2f:59;CMTS-MAC=00:13:5f:02:66:e5;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
Dec 30 2014 09:31:48 5-Warning Z00.0 MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1;CM-MAC=78:96:84:fa:2f:59;CMTS-MAC=00:13:5f:02:66:e5;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
Jan 01 1970 00:00:23 3-Critical R02.0 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=78:96:84:fa:2f:59;CMTS-MAC=00:13:5f:02:66:e5;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
Dec 30 2014 09:30:57 6-Notice N/A Cable Modem Reboot from Software upgrade ;CM-MAC=78:96:84:fa:2f:59;CMTS-MAC=00:13:5f:02:66:e5;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
Dec 30 2014 09:30:56 6-Notice E111.0 SW download Successful - Via NMS
Dec 30 2014 09:29:52 6-Notice E101.0 SW Download INIT - Via NMS

The err "No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=78:96:84:fa:2f:59;CMTS-MAC=00:13:5f:02:66:e5;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;" caught my eyes although I don't fully understand what it means. It should be the latest log record however the timestamp is messed up -- the modem tends to reset its clock. Anyway, it seems that the modem couldn't get the Ranging Response, and panicked. If we can figure out why it failed to retrieve the response, we might be able to get to the bottom of this issue. Hope the info above is useful somehow. Thx!

--jun

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Hi lujun823,

Do you have any splitters connected to the line or anything?  The signal levels look ok but something would have to be causing the disconnects.  Do you have any other cable outlets you can try in the home?