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Recently, I found out that Cox Premier Internet is suppose to provide internet speed around 50 mbps (100 mbps soon thanks to the free double speed policy thing).

I've been on this service for 2 years now but I never saw the speed going past  ~35 mbps.

I tried various ways to rule out possible causes for the slow speed (using wired, plugging in only 1 computer, reset router, change router settings. etc..) with no success.

I finally contacted Cox by the chat support and after first representative couldn't find the solution, she created a ticket so the higher tier tech support could take a look at it and told me to check back later to see their answer.

After 24 hrs; representative told me there isn't a response yet.

On the second day, I again contacted cox through chatting and the representative told me that they couldn't see the cause of slow speed from their end either, so they will be sending a technician to check a wiring.

Meanwhile, she noticed that I have an exceeded my data plan this month and started to sound as if I sold dope to a 10 year old (500gb out of 300gb; I discovered torrenting recently. Still, it's ridiculous compared to other competitors like Verizon Fios which has no cap to begin with)

She said that by using excessive data, my speed will be slowed down and the modem and my network adapter will break down.

(Funny because she suggested upgrading to ultimate plan. So that means if I pay more, the very same modem and my computer's adapter that were about to break down will some how work flawlessly?)

I tried to remain polite and went on to ask for other possible explanations.

She stubbornly insisted that the overage caused the slow speed.

I then told her this is my first month that I exceeded my data plan and proceeded to tell her that speed was never above 35mbps all through out, not just this month.

Then, she blamed my modem.

I asked her if I go get a new modem will I be seeing internet speed around 50mbps as promised?

She still mentioned about the overage, saying that even if I get a new modem, speed will be slow until the cycle is finished.

I asked her precisely "So Cox does throttle internet speed if I exceed my data plan?"

Her answer was "Yes"

I told her that on the Cox website, it says Cox doesn't throttle internet speed even if data plan is exceeded.

Then she started giving out nonsense responses, so I finally gave up and closed the chat window.

Still, to this moment, internet speed remains the same.

My questions are:

- Does Cox throttle internet speed or did the representative lie to me?

- If Cox does not throttle internet speed, what is hindering my internet speed from reaching as high as it should be?

I honestly was super excited about internet speed upgrade to 100mbps soon but I doubt it when I'm struggling to get it past 35 mbps.

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The answers to your questions will depend on a lot of factors that I don't currently have the benefit of seeing.  As for data usage and speed, excessive usage does not causes the speeds to decrease however if the process that is consuming the data is actively running the remaining speed available for other applications will diminish.

As for the modem that depends entirely on what modem you currently have.  If your modem is not a DOCSIS 3.0 model Premier HSI is a 25Mbps. Service.  Once you upgrade to a DOCSIS 3.0 modem it becomes 100Mbps.  This is due to 2.0 modems being limited to a single channel of available bandwidth.

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Thank you so much for your reply.

I apologize that I was more of ranting rather than asking questions.

Yes, the speed test was conducted without any other process that would slow it down.

I have Netgear CG3000D-RG which I believe is a DOCSIS 3.0 modem.

So far, I can't seem to find any other possibilities to rule out.

Can you give me further suggestions?

Thanks!

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Chris is correct on the fact that speeds are not throttled even if the data usage is gone over it will only cause warning messages to be sent to the email account that is noted.

I was able to check the modem's information, and it does show issues with the channels bonding which would put a ceiling to the modem you should be fine with the speed upgrades. Which have not officially taken place in that area till the end of the month so it is still currently 50 Mbps download.

With the channel issues however dealing with signal the speed increases would not likely take effect without getting the signal levels under control. Are you aware of any filters or splitters connected to the cable line between the modem and wall?
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Thank you for your response Edward.

I am not so familiar with cable line so please bear with me.

Are you asking if the white cable line is connected to my modem/router unit straight, without anything in between?

I see that the white cable is coming out from wall and connected directly to the modem, but I'm not sure what is going on beneath the surface.

I do, however, have Direct TV and ADT units in our locations throughout the house which are also connected to the white cable lines.

Perhaps, there indeed may be a hub thing to accommodate all that.

The question is, where is the white cable lines suppose to originate from anyway?

I assume that if this hub thing (which I'm imagining expansion power outlet) is causing the slow speed, then the problem should be fixed if the modem is connected directly to whatever the origin of the white cable lines is. Am I right?

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A Amplifer may be tied into a power outlet there but a splitter/filter would be connected to the Coaxial line going into the back of the modem and wall outlet there for it. That line should come into the home from wherever the aerial drop or buried drop from us comes into the home. Direct TV will use the same coaxial cables but should not tied to the same line as it would cause alot of interference for both Internet and TV, ADT is likely a different type of line.

If you do not see a splitter between the modem and wall outlet we would likley need a technician to test the lines and see what exactly is going on outside and going into the home to narrow it down.
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