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Wednesday, January 18th, 2023 7:25 PM

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Cox's New PW7, 4331 vs Arris DG2460

OK, the tests are in. I upgraded my services and was sent a 4331 modem, I didn't really want. To be fair, since most of my previous hands on testing was on the 4141 modem, (PW6), and this was the new 4331 (PW7), I performed a complete set of tests. I ran tests on it for both speed and for WiFi strength, measured in RSSI using an Android Samsung S22 Ultra and a OnePlus 7 Pro, both running Android 12. I connected a computer via ethernet and ran tests to my wifi laptops, and then reconnected back to my DG2460 Modem, and ran the same tests. at 10 feet away, on 5 GHZ, no difference in speed. On 2.4 Ghz, no difference in speed. At 20 feet away, on the 4331, Tests showed a an RSSI of 17% less on 5 GHZ, and 10%  less on 2.4 GHZ speeds were still similar though a touch slower on the new 4331. At 30 feet away, (And upstairs), RSSI showed a 39% less signal on 5 GHZ. and 28% less signal on 2.4 GHZ. Speed tests however showed a marked difference. On 5 GHZ, I was getting transfer speeds of 91 mbps on 5ghz, and 84 mbps on 2.4, and the same test on the 2460 I was getting 723 mbps on 5 GHZ and since I only have 2 antenna 2.4 GHZ, I got 271 mbps. It's interesting to note, that the 271 mbps was the same speed BOTH modems provided on the 2.4 GHZ  tests for both the 20 ft and on the 10 ft tests. Tests were run transferring a 430 MB file and a 674 MB file from my desktop computer over WiFi to my laptop, and I got similar results with both a windows laptop and a macbook. I returned the 4331 to Cox.

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3 years ago

Wow, thanks for all that data. That is exactly what I was asking for in that other thread. So it looks like the 4331 is a dud. What did you get in return? Are you finally going to upgrade to your own router? 🤓

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When I decide to upgrade, will probably look hard at the Netgear CAX80. Will make sure I get one that can be returned if after testing I find out it isn't what it's cracked up to be. Whatever I get will have a USB port so I can use a USB drive on it. Either that, or possible an Arris G36, or wait for the G54. Or Docsis 4

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LOL. You and those combos. However DOCSIS 4.0 does interest me. Any mention of it at CES?

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Wasn't able to make CES this year, maybe next year, but from what I know, d4.0 modems should become available in the first quarter of this year. Hope to hear more on it from some friends of mine though. 

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I would love to go to CES but afraid I am a east coaster. However I meant had you seen anything about it online? I googled around and found this interesting article.

But back to your OP, are you downgrading your service? I assumed your current gateway was no longer compatible with the speed.

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My discount plan was for 1 year, up on Feb 15th, so time to get a new plan. Same Internet, same phone service, bundled, Preferred HSI and phone service - 69$ a month. I am saving 10$ actually. HOWEVER, they shipped me the pano PW7 modem. I gave it the benefit of the doubt, seeing Technicolor had purchased Cisco home modems, the dpq3212 and such, BUT their WiFi, either due to their programming or antenna materials has ALWAYS been second and third rate. My modem is just fine up to 500 MB, it's a 24x8 channel modem, so it's gonna be good for 250 mbps, easily. When I HAVE to replace it though, well... It's still a tossup. 

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3 years ago

If its WiFi was at least good, Cox would not be able to peddle their Pods.

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That's actually not true. There are people with HUGE houses! Also, if it was true, then you are saying Netgear produced the ORBI to  sell it's mesh by using a less powerful wifi router? What about Google, and TPO link and the others? The pods actually fulfill a required need, people with really large homes require a mesh network. BUT, if the WiFi on the main router was in line with previous devices, then fewer people would need the pods. Also, the Pods are limited for use ONLY with those WiFi modems, so another reason I am not really for them. 

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First, you assume everyone to have purchased the Pods live in really large, HUGE house.

Second, you assume I would compare Netgear, Google and the others to the Scamoramic and its Puds.

if the WiFi on the main router was in line with previous devices, then fewer people would need the pods. Also, the Pods are limited for use ONLY with those WiFi modems, so another reason I am not really for them. 

Hence, peddle marketing.

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No, I didn't assume anything, YOU did. What is was saying is, even IF the WiFi was on par with others, there would still be a need for the Pods. 

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there would still be a need for the Pods. 

I think pods, or any repeater for that matter, is a poor choice IMO. Either MoCA or run ethernet for AP or backhaul.

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What had I assumed?  I'm basing my conclusion on what you had written about its weaker WiFi and you had also returned it.  Why didn't you just purchase some Pods?

I'm also basing my conclusion on the previous complaints from purchasers of the Pods even after their Pods are paired to the Panoramic with assumedly stronger WiFi.

I also didn't assume there is no need to extend the reach of a wireless router.  Of course this is a need.  However, why did Cox release a new Panoramic with a weaker radio?  To peddle their pods.

If there was a need for Pods for a Panoramic with a stronger WiFI, there definitely will be more of a need for a Panoramic with a weaker WiFI.

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