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USING HDMI CABLES

I have the Contour Record 6 DVR, and 2 receivers. Recently I've changed my A/V cables to HDMI cables. My picture, and sound are great, with the exception of my #2 receiver which is located in my office, it has the problem. The problem that I'm experiencing is ever since I changed to the HDMI cables, every 5-7 minutes the picture, and sound goes out for approximately 2-3 seconds, then comes back on. This only occurs on the #2 receiver, the others (main DVR, and #1 receiver works fine. What do I need to do to correct this? When the #2 receiver was using the A/V cables naturally I never had this problem

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It appears that you do not have a stable "hand-shake" between receiver #2 and the TV. Do you get a "2d" readout on the front panel of receiver #2 while this is occurring? Does turning receiver #2 off for a while temporarily fix the problem? What are the model numbers of the TV and receiver #2? If using component cables (r/g/b r/w) eliminates the problem, then it's a "hand-shake" problem for sure. Try reversing receivers #1 and #2, OR reversing the TVs the two receivers use.

[I'm assuming that you've already tried swapping HDMI cables, etc.]

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It appears that you do not have a stable "hand-shake" between receiver #2 and the TV. Do you get a "2d" readout on the front panel of receiver #2 while this is occurring? Does turning receiver #2 off for a while temporarily fix the problem? What are the model numbers of the TV and receiver #2? If using component cables (r/g/b r/w) eliminates the problem, then it's a "hand-shake" problem for sure. Try reversing receivers #1 and #2, OR reversing the TVs the two receivers use.

[I'm assuming that you've already tried swapping HDMI cables, etc.]

I do receive the 2d on the front panel only when I turn on the receiver, and the TV. Turning off the receiver didn't eliminate the problem. The model number for the TV in the office is (Toshiba model #26AV500U); the receiver is; (Cisco Explorer model # 4642HDC). As for reversing the TV's that's impossible; the TV in the bedroom is a 42", and it's on the wall. Receiver #1 also shows the 2d when turning on the TV, and receiver however the picture, and sound doesn't go out like on receiver #2.

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I do receive the 2d on the front panel only when I turn on the receiver, and the TV. Turning off the receiver didn't eliminate the problem. The model number for the TV in the office is (Toshiba model #26AV500U); the receiver is; (Cisco Explorer model # 4642HDC). As for reversing the TV's that's impossible; the TV in the bedroom is a 42", and it's on the wall. Receiver #1 also shows the 2d when turning on the TV, and receiver however the picture, and sound doesn't go out like on receiver #2

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JA95606 said:
Domino said:

It appears that you do not have a stable "hand-shake" between receiver #2 and the TV. Do you get a "2d" readout on the front panel of receiver #2 while this is occurring? Does turning receiver #2 off for a while temporarily fix the problem? What are the model numbers of the TV and receiver #2? If using component cables (r/g/b r/w) eliminates the problem, then it's a "hand-shake" problem for sure. Try reversing receivers #1 and #2, OR reversing the TVs the two receivers use.

[I'm assuming that you've already tried swapping HDMI cables, etc.]

I do receive the 2d on the front panel only when I turn on the receiver, and the TV. Turning off the receiver didn't eliminate the problem. The model number for the TV in the office is (Toshiba model #26AV500U); the receiver is; (Cisco Explorer model # 4642HDC). As for reversing the TV's that's impossible; the TV in the bedroom is a 42", and it's on the wall. Receiver #1 also shows the 2d when turning on the TV, and receiver however the picture, and sound doesn't go out like on receiver #2.

The "2d" readout when you first turn the units on is normal. As a last ditch test, I'd reverse receivers #1 and #2. I'd also still like to know if your present #2 receiver and TV exhibit the problem when connected via component (not composite.)

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Oh, ok I didn't know if the 2d was normal when turning on the units. As for using A/V components, when they were connected, no I never experienced this problem, only after I connected the HDMI cables.

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JA95606 said:
Oh, ok I didn't know if the 2d was normal when turning on the units. As for using A/V components, when they were connected, no I never experienced this problem, only after I connected the HDMI cables.

The front panel will give a "2d" indication every time a "handshake" is attempted between the two devices.

Your use of the term "A/V components" is confusing. There are "A/V" outputs (yellow for video, red/white for stereo audio.) This is a 480p SD output only. No HD. Then there is the "component" output. It has 3 wires (green, blue, red) for video, and 2 wires (red, white) for audio. This output can give SD or HD video. You were also going to try swapping the two receivers, to see if the problem stayed with receiver #2.

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The term A/V component cables; are the ones that Cox originally installed (a set of 5 cables combined as one, 3 for video, and 2 for audio).

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JA95606 said:
The term A/V component cables; are the ones that Cox originally installed (a set of 5 cables combined as one, 3 for video, and 2 for audio).

So we know that it is an HDMI problem for sure, either in the TV or in the STB. How many HDMI inputs does the TV have? Have you tried a different HDMI input on your TV? Have you tried reversing the receivers yet (so we can see if the problem stays with receiver #2, or with TV #2) ??

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No, I haven't reversed the receivers, yet. The TV has 2 HDMI inputs, and both have been tried. At this point, and time, I've replaced the HDMI cables, and reconnected the component cables, because my wife, and I both were getting annoyed with the picture, and sound going out every 5-7 minutes for 2-3 seconds. I do appreciate your help. I will look into this problem at a later time. Thank you for your help

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Even when powered off, devices still output low voltage through the HDMI connections. In some instances with some devices this interferes with the DHCP handshake when connecting HDMI cables with the device powered off but still plugged in.

So try unplugging all devices from their AC power source. Then connect the HDMI cables. Then plug your devices back in.

Go to http://site.hdtvsupply.com/hdcp1.html for more HDMI troubleshooting tips.

 

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Funny, I tried what you suggested, unplugging all devices, then connecting the HDMI cables, then plugging everything back in, and it work yesterday. I just came into my office today, turned on the TV, and receiver as I always do, and after about 10 minutes on, the picture, and sound went out again for about 3-5 seconds, then came back on. Then it went off again, and back on again. It's been now maybe 10 minutes, and it still going out, and back on again every maybe 5-7 minutes.

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JA95606 said:
Funny, I tried what you suggested, unplugging all devices, then connecting the HDMI cables, then plugging everything back in, and it work yesterday. I just came into my office today, turned on the TV, and receiver as I always do, and after about 10 minutes on, the picture, and sound went out again for about 3-5 seconds, then came back on. Then it went off again, and back on again. It's been now maybe 10 minutes, and it still going out, and back on again every maybe 5-7 minutes.

Again, and I realize that you said that you might try this later, reversing your two receivers and seeing if the problem follows receiver #2, or stays with TV #2 is the thing that will finalize the diagnosis of a flaky HDMI circuit in receiver #2. Flaky HDMI circuits in Cisco/SA equipment are not uncommon.