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Homelife connection problem

I will try to keep this simple.

since having homelife installed my main router loses connection until reset 1 to 3 times per day. In the past 15 years i have had amazing service.

my setup Asus rt-ac87 main wifi with smaller wifi piggy back off that for guests. Off the main Asus router is the new homelife equipment, router and box to record 24/7.

when the connection dies, the center homelife light goes yellow and any connections to the main wifi router are killed. But... The wired connections including my pc snd the extra wifi router pass through and continue to function!!

sounds crazy but takes a reboot to resume security functions and wifi capability of the main router once again. Never resets and happens without fail at LEAST once per day. Today was down from 10 am until i came home and reset it at 1:30 ish. 

cant really watch my home from work reliably with this happening. My connection snd speeds are great, in fact the main trunk is in my driveway to the entire block.

Any help would be appreciated! I cant be the only one.

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Do you still have problems if you remove your guest router?

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I will try and leave it unplugged this morning when I leave but it stays running even when the main one shuts down and has never been an issue before the new equipment.

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I'd say it's definitely worth a try.  With all of the different routers attached there's potential for mis-configured IP addressing if that problem isn't carefully managed.

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"my setup Asus rt-ac87 main wifi with smaller wifi piggy back off that for guests. Off the main Asus router is the new homelife equipment, router and box to record 24/7."

Could you clairify this? What is "smaller wifi"? A repeater? A AP? Also, what kind of modem do you have?

Also, usually they set it up as modem > Homelife router > customer router. Did someone set up port forwarding on the Asus router?

Also, whats in the logs for the Asus when the Homelife looses connection?

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It was my previous wifi router Asus RT-N56U dual band router and I don't remember how I set it up at the time but it has been working that way for maybe 2 and a half years ish?

I just left it attached since my kids, father, guests all had that programmed in and used the new one for me and the wife basically. I picked up the new cable modem same time as the new router and it's a newer docsis 3.0 Surfboard 6141

The setup guys didn't change anything with my system just plugged in their router and the other equipment is plugged into their small router from there. They basically booted it up, added the hardware items for the security setup and it all worked.

The only real problem is it eventually will go CPE offline and stay that way until I restart the main Asus router, but everything else is still functioning, the second small wifi and wired connections work just the security system and wifi part are down.

Even the 24/7 video device will eventually catch up and I do NOT lose any video from the time it was down it just takes awhile to catch up once I reboot the router so it must store locally on the box and be still working.

Disconnecting the smaller wifi didn't stop it from dying today though. One reboot at 8am but I am at work now so if it goes out again I can't reset right now.

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Hmm I was thinking it was modem - home router - homelife router off that but I will take some pictures and look again

Doesn't seem like that would work though because their router has a yellow light for connection when it goes down but my router (wired only) and additional wifi still work which wouldn't make sense if theirs was totally offline?

Thanks for the ideas guys.

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Need to know more about how each device is connected to each other and how the devices are configured. I understand you not being able to remember, but that is something that needs to be known before troubleshooting. Which devices have NAT? Which devices are doing DHCP? Router logs? Can you check and post? I don't know any way to help without knowing the data.

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Tecknowhelp said:

Need to know more about how each device is connected to each other and how the devices are configured. I understand you not being able to remember, but that is something that needs to be known before troubleshooting. Which devices have NAT? Which devices are doing DHCP? Router logs? Can you check and post? I don't know any way to help without knowing the data.

Ok back home now, I have a picture of the setup but it's like I thought originally. Cable to Modem, out to Asus 87U - off the back of that are 2 pc's my extra wifi router, the homelife router. Off the back of the homelife router is the black recording dvr like box. Not a huge amount in the logs big gaps from like Dec 31st to this morning although it has to be reset multiple times I am not seeing much in there. Here is the log from today. Jan 5 05:25:03 rc_service: ntp 682:notify_rc restart_upnp Jan 5 05:25:04 miniupnpd[679]: received signal 15, good-bye Jan 5 05:25:04 miniupnpd[698]: HTTP listening on port 47810 Jan 5 05:25:04 miniupnpd[698]: Listening for NAT-PMP traffic on port 5351 Jan 5 05:25:04 rc_service: ntp 682:notify_rc restart_diskmon Jan 5 05:25:05 disk_monitor: Finish Jan 5 05:25:06 disk monitor: be idle Jan 5 05:25:32 crond[467]: time disparity of 532105 minutes detected Jan 5 05:25:33 qtn: bootcfg.tgz exists Jan 5 05:25:46 dfs: start dfs scan Jan 5 05:25:47 nodfs_scan: complete Jan 5 06:00:06 disk_monitor: Got SIGALRM... I don't see anything posted during the actual problem phase only from restarting, the one from 31st is pretty huge but not sure if that was during a restart? Let me see if it will work in here. Dec 31 17:00:11 syslogd started: BusyBox v1.17.4 Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: klogd started: BusyBox v1.17.4 (2015-04-10 16:52:21 CST) Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: Linux version 2.6.36.4brcmarm (raymonddev@raymonddev-1404) (gcc version 4.5.3 (Buildroot 2012.02) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Apr 10 16:58:08 CST 2015 Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: CPU: ARMv7 Processor [413fc090] revision 0 (ARMv7), cr=10c53c7f Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: CPU: VIPT nonaliasing data cache, VIPT nonaliasing instruction cache Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: Machine: Northstar Prototype Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: Ignoring unrecognised tag 0x00000000 Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: Memory policy: ECC disabled, Data cache writealloc Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: Built 1 zonelists in Zone order, mobility grouping on. Total pages: 60416 Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: Kernel command line: root=/dev/mtdblock2 console=ttyS0,115200 init=/sbin/preinit earlyprintk debug Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: Memory: 255540k/255540k available, 6604k reserved, 0K highmem Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: Virtual kernel memory layout: Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: vector : 0xffff0000 - 0xffff1000 ( 4 kB) Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: fixmap : 0xfff00000 - 0xfffe0000 ( 896 kB) Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: DMA : 0xf7e00000 - 0xffe00000 ( 128 MB) Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: vmalloc : 0xd0800000 - 0xf0000000 ( 504 MB) Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: lowmem : 0xc0000000 - 0xd0000000 ( 256 MB) Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: modules : 0xbf000000 - 0xc0000000 ( 16 MB) Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: .init : 0xc0008000 - 0xc003d000 ( 212 kB) Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: .text : 0xc003d000 - 0xc03a2000 (3476 kB) Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: .data : 0xc03ba000 - 0xc03dcfe0 ( 140 kB) Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: External imprecise Data abort at addr=0x0, fsr=0x1c06 ignored. Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: CPU1: Booted secondary processor Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: Found a AMD NAND flash: Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: Total size: 128MB Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: Block size: 128KB Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: Page Size: 2048B Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: OOB Size: 64B Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: Sector size: 512B Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: Spare size: 16B Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: ECC level: 8 (8-bit) Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: Device ID: 0x 1 0xf1 0x 0 0x1d 0x 1 0xf1 Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: bio: create slab at 0 Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: PCI: no core Dec 31 17:00:11 kernel: PCI: no core Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: PCI: Fixing up bus 0 Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: PCI: Fixing up bus 0 Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: PCI: Fixing up bus 1 Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.2 Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes) Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: pflash: found no supported devices Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: bcmsflash: found no supported devices Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: Boot partition size = 524288(0x80000) Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: lookup_nflash_rootfs_offset: offset = 0x200000 Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: nflash: squash filesystem with lzma found at block 28 Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: Creating 4 MTD partitions on "nflash": Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: 0x000000000000-0x000000080000 : "boot" Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: 0x000000080000-0x000000200000 : "nvram" Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: 0x000000200000-0x000004000000 : "linux" Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: 0x000000399a08-0x000004000000 : "rootfs" Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: === PPTP init === Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: Registering the dns_resolver key type Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: Spare area=64 eccbytes 56, ecc bytes located at: Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: Available 7 bytes at (off,len): Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: (1,1) (16,2) (32,2) (48,2) (0,0) (0,0) (0,0) (0,0) Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: Bad eraseblock 38 at 0x0000004c0000 Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: Options: NO_AUTOINCR,NO_READRDY,BBT_SCAN2NDPAGE, Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: Creating 2 MTD partitions on "brcmnand": Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: 0x000004000000-0x000007ec0000 : "brcmnand" Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: 0x000007ec0000-0x000008000000 : "asus" Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: VFS: Mounted root (squashfs filesystem) readonly on device 31:3. Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: ctf: module license 'Proprietary' taints kernel. Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: et_module_init: passivemode set to 0x0 Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: et_module_init: txworkq set to 0x1 Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: et_module_init: et_txq_thresh set to 0x400 Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: ================= Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: robo chk regs: Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: =================== Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: (0x00,0x5d)Port 5 States Override: 0xfb Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: (0x00,0x5f)Port 7 States Override: 0xfb Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: (0x00,0x0e)Port 8 States Override: 0x0a Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: (0x00,0x08)Port 8 IMP Control Register: 0x00 Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: (0x02,0x00) Global Management Config: 0x00 Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: (0x02,0x00) 802.1Q VLAN Control 5: 0x00 Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: (0x02,0x03) BRCM HDR Control Register: 0x00 Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: (0x00,0x0b) Switch Mode Register: 0x06 Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: eth0: Broadcom BCM47XX 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet Controller 6.37.14.86 (r456083) Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: wl_module_init: passivemode set to 0x0 Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: wl_module_init: txworkq set to 0x1 Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: eth1: Broadcom BCM4360 802.11 Wireless Controller 6.37.14.86 (r456083) Dec 31 17:00:12 kernel: Empty flash at 0x02ee9494 ends at 0x02ee9800 Dec 31 17:00:13 stop_nat_rules: apply the redirect_rules! Dec 31 17:00:13 qcsapi: write qcsapi conf ok Dec 31 17:00:13 WAN Connection: ISP's DHCP did not function properly. Dec 31 17:00:25 dnsmasq[459]: warning: interface ppp1* does not currently exist Dec 31 17:00:25 RT-AC87R: start httpd Dec 31 17:00:25 disk monitor: be idle Dec 31 17:00:26 miniupnpd[497]: HTTP listening on port 43583 Dec 31 17:00:26 miniupnpd[497]: Listening for NAT-PMP traffic on port 5351 Dec 31 17:00:26 syslog: Generating SSL certificate... Dec 31 17:00:26 start_nat_rules: apply the nat_rules(/tmp/nat_rules_eth0_eth0)! Dec 31 17:00:26 kernel: SCSI subsystem initialized Dec 31 17:00:27 kernel: nf_conntrack_rtsp v0.6.21 loading Dec 31 17:00:27 kernel: nf_nat_rtsp v0.6.21 loading Dec 31 17:00:27 wan: finish adding multi routes Dec 31 17:00:27 rc_service: udhcpc 511:notify_rc stop_upnp Dec 31 17:00:28 kernel: xhci_hcd 0000:00:0c.0: Failed to enable MSI-X Dec 31 17:00:28 kernel: xhci_hcd 0000:00:0c.0: failed to allocate MSI entry Dec 31 17:00:28 kernel: usb usb1: No SuperSpeed endpoint companion for config 1 interface 0 altsetting 0 ep 129: using minimum values Dec 31 17:00:28 WAN Connection: WAN was restored. Dec 31 17:00:28 miniupnpd[497]: received signal 15, good-bye Dec 31 17:00:29 rc_service: udhcpc 511:notify_rc start_upnp Dec 31 17:00:30 miniupnpd[679]: HTTP listening on port 45970 Dec 31 17:00:30 miniupnpd[679]: Listening for NAT-PMP traffic on port 5351 Dec 31 17:00:31 dhcp client: bound 68.108.62.75 via 68.108.62.1 during 86400 seconds. Dec 31 17:00:32 ntp: start NTP update The 4 are all wired and it's all DHCP I didn't do really anything beyond the normal almost every setting is default like wan is all set to yes on NAT, WAN, UpNp enabling etc. I am at home for the next 2 hours and can put up any settings you might want to see.

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Wow sorry for the Wall of text, mine has spaces in it lol, Looks terrible hopefully you can still read some of that. Kris

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Do you happen to know what IP subnets each of these routers are using and are they all issuing IP addresses using their DHCP servers?  

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Do you happen to know what IP subnets each of these routers are using and are they all issuing IP addresses using their DHCP servers?  

Main ASUS 192.168.1.1 and the additional wifi just logged into that one and it's set up as a normal wifi router also not a repeater or AP and it's 192.168.2.1 Both are up at the moment

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Quip said:
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Do you happen to know what IP subnets each of these routers are using and are they all issuing IP addresses using their DHCP servers?  

Main ASUS 192.168.1.1 and the additional wifi just logged into that one and it's set up as a normal wifi router also not a repeater or AP and it's 192.168.2.1 Both are up at the moment
I notice that between the two there is a large time discrepancy, not sure why maybe wrong timezone set I can change that but it's been that way for years I think. 19:39GMT on the N53 and 12:39 on the big ASUS. weird.

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Are you saying that more than one device is using the 192.168.1.x space?  If so that is likely a significant contributor to the problems you're seeing.  Ideally I'd remove the guest router and set the primary router up to allow for guest access if it has a feature to do so.  Having two routers within such close proximity to each other will also cause other problems, particularly for wireless connectivity. 

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ChrisL said:
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Are you saying that more than one device is using the 192.168.1.x space?  If so that is likely a significant contributor to the problems you're seeing.  Ideally I'd remove the guest router and set the primary router up to allow for guest access if it has a feature to do so.  Having two routers within such close proximity to each other will also cause other problems, particularly for wireless connectivity. 

No they are totally separate 192.168.1.2-50 and 192.168.2.2-50

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Another problem however is what the 3rd device is using.  If there is overlap anywhere you're run into intermittent problems depending on what addresses each device decides to hand out at any given time.