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ZeroXG
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Packet loss in north Phoenix, AZ

Greetings,

Since 7/31, I've been having intermittent packet loss through the day. I have contacted Cox's tier 2 techs and have had 2 field techs come and analyze the connection. The first tech, in-house, said nothing was wrong and simply left without even checking anything inside the house. The second tech, a contractor, did a really good job. His analysis said the issue was not anywhere inside the home. He encountered a lot of noise at the tap right outside. He emailed the field supervisor to let them know but he said he was not sure how long it would take to fix.

Is there anything I can do to escalate this further to get this resolved as soon as possible? I really don't want to switch providers but I cannot use the internet with this issue.

I can attach PingPlotter pro screenshots if that would help.

Thanks,

David

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  • ChrisL's avatar
    ChrisL
    Former Moderator
    @ZeroXG

    I'm not seeing any loss when I check the modem from our end. Do you have any trace routes showing the loss?

  • jaosn_olsen's avatar
    jaosn_olsen
    New Contributor

    i too have seen a 3% packet loss which has been affecting my upload speed which is what i need. my upload speed has been dropping from the usual 30 mbps to 5 mbps to .74 kbps over the last week. 

  • ZeroXG's avatar
    ZeroXG
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    Greetings Chris!

    Thank you for answering. So far I've had yet another tech (total of 3). House is free of noise. Still getting the noise from the tap out to the house. So far we have filed two maintenance requests.

    I thought we had finally fixed the issue last night at around 7:15pm AZ time because I had a perfect connection until I went to sleep. Today, however, the problem is back with a vengeance: according to my ping software, we are at about 6% packet loss to three different servers. 

    I called the tech 1 team again and they identified an 8% loss regardless of how many ping tests they did. We have another tech coming tomorrow.

    What do you think may be happening and what can I do to get things back to being perfect?

    PS I copied ping tests and tracerts for you, all ran from Command Prompt

    Tracing route to cox.com [68.99.123.161]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
    2 6 ms 8 ms 7 ms 10.114.32.1
    3 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms 100.127.64.58
    4 8 ms 9 ms 8 ms wsip-70-166-189-130.ph.ph.cox.net [70.166.189.13
    0]
    5 56 ms 56 ms 53 ms dukedsrj01-ae4.0.rd.at.cox.net [68.1.1.121]
    6 68 ms 54 ms 57 ms 68.1.15.234
    7 62 ms 53 ms 53 ms 68.99.123.4
    8 57 ms * 56 ms ww2.cox.com [68.99.123.161]

    Trace complete.

    Ping statistics for 68.99.123.161:
    Packets: Sent = 292, Received = 280, Lost = 12 (4% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 52ms, Maximum = 75ms, Average = 54ms

    Tracing route to bungie.net [104.20.29.30]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
    2 22 ms 6 ms * 10.114.32.1
    3 * * 11 ms 100.127.64.56
    4 8 ms 16 ms 10 ms wsip-70-166-189-128.ph.ph.cox.net [70.166.189.12
    8]
    5 11 ms 8 ms 9 ms 68.1.0.187
    6 14 ms 9 ms 9 ms 162.158.140.253
    7 8 ms 9 ms 7 ms 104.20.29.30

    Trace complete.

    Ping statistics for 104.20.29.30:
    Packets: Sent = 257, Received = 243, Lost = 14 (5% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 6ms, Maximum = 29ms, Average = 10ms

    Tracing route to google.com [216.58.217.206]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
    2 11 ms 7 ms 7 ms 10.114.32.1
    3 9 ms 13 ms 8 ms 100.127.64.56
    4 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms wsip-70-166-189-128.ph.ph.cox.net [70.166.189.12
    8]
    5 25 ms 23 ms 27 ms langbprj02-ae1.0.rd.la.cox.net [68.1.1.14]
    6 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms 72.14.215.221
    7 20 ms 21 ms 22 ms 216.239.51.33
    8 21 ms 22 ms 21 ms 216.239.51.55
    9 20 ms 28 ms 19 ms lax17s05-in-f14.1e100.net [216.58.217.206]

    Trace complete.

    Ping statistics for 216.58.193.206:
    Packets: Sent = 301, Received = 291, Lost = 10 (3% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 19ms, Maximum = 43ms, Average = 21ms

  • ZeroXG's avatar
    ZeroXG
    New Contributor

    Interesting. I just replied to Chris with some tests I just ran in the Windows Command Prompt (ping and tracert). Want to post yours to see if you are having a similar issue?

    Let me know if you need help with the tests. I also use PingTracer, a free tool that graphs pings so you can visually identify them if you want to give that a try.

  • DerrickW's avatar
    DerrickW
    Valued Contributor
    @jaosn olsen

    I'd like to take a look at the modem signal levels to see if there are any issues there. Can you email us at cox.help@cox.com with the name and address listed on the account? Also, include a link to this forum post. Thanks!
  • ChrisL's avatar
    ChrisL
    Former Moderator
    @ZeroXG

    From this end the modem is reporting no noise interference and your trace routes all look good. Where are you looking to see this noise?

  • ZeroXG's avatar
    ZeroXG
    New Contributor
    @ChrisL Thanks for helping me out Chris. The tests that I do are simple pings and trace routes from the command prompt or using Ping Plotter to different servers. The packet loss occurs intermittently and sometimes can have periods of clarity that range from a couple of seconds to several minutes. When I leave the ping for a long amount of time, say an hour or so, I get an average of 5.5% or 6% packet loss. Additionally, the two previous field technicians certified the wiring in the house is free of any interference. They identified that the interference was coming out of the tap outside, into the house. Strangely, on 8/23 from 7:15pm until the morning of 8/24, I had a perfect connection. Do you see any maintenance requests done on 8/23 or 8/24?
  • ZeroXG's avatar
    ZeroXG
    New Contributor

    @ChrisL The tech just left the house. Very knowledgeable. Unfortunately, the packet loss symptoms disappeared a couple of minutes before he arrived, and throughout the hour he was here, we could not reproduce them. =( On the bright side, I have no issues right now but not sure how long it will last. 

    Ironically, as I am typing this, I just began losing packets again. Not sure what to do now.

  • ChrisL's avatar
    ChrisL
    Former Moderator
    @ZeroXG

    Pings are OK for detecting that there may be a problem but won't tell you anything useful about the problem. You could try a utility called pingplotter and see if it catches anything.

  • ZeroXG's avatar
    ZeroXG
    New Contributor
    ChrisL said:
    @ZeroXG

    Pings are OK for detecting that there may be a problem but won't tell you anything useful about the problem. You could try a utility called pingplotter and see if it catches anything.

    Hey Chris!
    I do have ping plotter and another utility. All they are finding is that most packet loss begins on hop 2, past the modem. The modem has no issues whatsoever.
    I have yet another tech coming today to see if we can spot the issue so that they can submit a maintenance request. Apparently, without seeing it, they can't submit one (even if I show them all my graphs and tests as evidence of a problem).
    The strange thing is that it is intermittent. Lately, I can have a good 5 minutes or so without a packet loss then it drops a bit here and there then it goes back to being clear. Other times it can be so bad that I am losing packets every 3 seconds.
    So far this will be my 5th tech and nothing yet fixed. Any way you can request maintenance requests from your end?
    Best regards